From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Tue Aug 1 16:21:50 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25797 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:21:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smarthost-2.mail.telinco.net (smarthost-2.mail.telinco.net [212.1.128.91]) by apocalypse.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25791 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:21:49 -0400 Received: from ppp-1-222.cvx6.telinco.net ([212.1.156.222] helo=localhost) by smarthost-2.mail.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.02 #4) id 13JiXr-0007eD-00 for hexagram-8@apocalypse.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:21:47 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000801210451.007d7a70@mail.telinco.co.uk> X-Sender: tfi015829@mail.telinco.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:04:51 +0100 To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org From: Andreas Schoter Subject: HEX8: Huang's Translation In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org At 10:48 22/07/00 -0400, Glenroy Wolfsen wrote: >Do you have the Ritsema/Karcher (Eranos Foundation) version, and if so, >what do you think of it? I have it. I've not worked a lot with it. However, I like the introductory material a lot - I have found that to be very interesting and helpful. Andreas ___________________________________________________________________________ Yijing Algebra http://www.weft.telinco.co.uk/changes mailto:yi-weft@telinco.co.uk ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Tue Aug 1 16:21:54 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25809 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:21:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smarthost-2.mail.telinco.net (smarthost-2.mail.telinco.net [212.1.128.91]) by apocalypse.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25805 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:21:52 -0400 Received: from ppp-1-222.cvx6.telinco.net ([212.1.156.222] helo=localhost) by smarthost-2.mail.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.02 #4) id 13JiXs-0007eD-00 for hexagram-8@apocalypse.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:21:49 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000801211345.007d75d0@mail.telinco.co.uk> X-Sender: tfi015829@mail.telinco.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:13:45 +0100 To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org From: Andreas Schoter Subject: HEX8: Book Recommendation In-Reply-To: <01210C074526D2118AB800A0C98439F5E1B9B9@condor.nrl.navy.mil > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Hi Folks, I've been meaning to mention this for a while now. Let me whole heartedly recommend the following volume: "Ta Chuan: The Great Treatise" by Stephen Karcher. Published by Carroll and Brown. This is an interesting translation of one of the key works on the Yi with an insightfull commentary by Karcher himself. In particular he tries to identify those portions of the text that are Taoist in origin and those that are Confucian in origin. It's a beautifully produced book, although it does lack a bibliography (I'm given to understand this is as a result of the publisher's preferences rather than Karcher's). Enjoy. Andreas ____________________________________________________________________________ Five Winds Tai Chi Chuan http://www.weft.telinco.co.uk/taiji mailto:five-winds@telinco.co.uk ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Tue Aug 1 16:21:52 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25804 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:21:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smarthost-2.mail.telinco.net (smarthost-2.mail.telinco.net [212.1.128.91]) by apocalypse.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25799 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:21:51 -0400 Received: from ppp-1-222.cvx6.telinco.net ([212.1.156.222] helo=localhost) by smarthost-2.mail.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.02 #4) id 13JiXq-0007eD-00 for hexagram-8@apocalypse.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:21:46 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000801211053.007da700@mail.telinco.co.uk> X-Sender: tfi015829@mail.telinco.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:10:53 +0100 To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org From: Andreas Schoter Subject: Re: HEX8: RE: Master Huang's book In-Reply-To: <01210C074526D2118AB800A0C98439F5E1B9B9@condor.nrl.navy.mil > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org At 22:58 21/07/00 -0400, Gait, Christopher wrote: >I, too, found that Alfred Huang's book is quite Confucianist in tone. Yes, having read a deal more of it now it very much reminds me of the commentary attributed to Cheng Yi in Cleary's work "The Tao of Organization" - that has a heavy preoccupation with structural notions such as correspondence and correctness which are typically taken to be of Confucian origin. As Frank Coolen noted in another message, Huang doesn't really explain a lot of the ideas that he uses, if I wasn't familiar with the ideas from other sources I'm not sure some of it would make sense. >very pleasing. I also enjoy the wonderful design of the book itself (I'm an >addictive bibliophile). Yes, it is a very nice book. >I've just gotten my copy of "The Numerology of the I Ching" by Master Huang >from >Barnes & Noble, but I haven't had much of a chance to get into it. I have this on order from Amazon - I'm hoping it will arrive soon. >With your interest in the patterns of the Yi I think you will find it of >interest, even if a lot of it will be familiar from other sources. Yes, I'm looking forward to reading it. All the Best Andreas > >Regards, >Chris Gait > >On 17 Jul 2000, at 22:36, Andreas Schoter wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I've recently got hold of a copy of Alfred Huang's "Complete I Ching". >> >> My reason for getting it was that it is touted as a Taoist approach to the >> book; Huang is called a "Taoist Master" on the cover. But now I'm puzzled >> - reading the introduction he seems very preoccupied with Confucious and >> his commentaries. >> >> I've not started in the renditions of the gua texts yet - I'll report back >> again when I've read it all :-) In the meantime, what have other folks >> made of this version? >> >> All the Best >> >> Andreas >> >> >___________________________________________________________________________ >> Yijing >Algebra >> >http://www.weft.telinco.co.uk/changes >> >mailto:yi-weft@telinco.co.uk > > >===== >To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org >from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Yijing Algebra http://www.weft.telinco.co.uk/changes mailto:yi-weft@telinco.co.uk ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Wed Aug 2 10:13:43 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10249 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:13:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by apocalypse.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10245 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:13:42 -0400 Received: from sand1 (adsl-151-204-64-28.delval.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.204.64.28]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21784 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:13:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200008021413.KAA21784@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Aquel" To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:13:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: HEX8: Book Recommendation In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20000801211345.007d75d0@mail.telinco.co.uk> References: <01210C074526D2118AB800A0C98439F5E1B9B9@condor.nrl.navy.mil > X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org > > "Ta Chuan: The Great Treatise" by Stephen Karcher. Published by > Carroll and Brown. > > Enjoy. > > Andreas > Interesting, I just searched for that book in BN and Amazon and it says it not yet published in the US (to be released in September 2000 by St. Martin's Press). Good is just a month away..... :-) Cheers, Luis Andrade _ _ /_\ __ _ _ _ ___| | //_\\ / _` | | | |/ _ \ | / _ \ (_| | |_| | __/ | \_/ \_/\__, |\__,_|\___|_| |_| ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE.