From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Sun Feb 11 20:14:37 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f1BHGBx15076 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:16:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from fw.iris.edu (fw.iris.edu [198.77.109.66]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1BHGAK15072 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:16:10 -0500 Received: from [192.35.78.201] (dmac201.iris.edu [192.35.78.201]) by fw.iris.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1BHEaW19147 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:14:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rbutler@iris.edu) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:10:57 -0500 To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org From: "Dr R. Butler" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram Names and Trigrams Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by apocalypse.org id f1BHGAK15073 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Hexagram Names and Trigrams By Dr Rhett Butler © 2001 "It's a perfect ponder" -Toots and the Maytals, Sweet and Dandy "O, that record could with a backward look, Even of five hundred courses of the sun, Show me your image in some antique book, Since mind at first in character was done! That I might see what the old world could say To this composed wonder of your frame." -William Shakespeare, Sonnet 59 For many years after first encountering the Yi, I accepted the legendary beginnings of the Hexagram as being doubled from the Trigrams. This story is told in the Wilhelm/Baynes version, based upon Sima Qian, the greatest historian of ancient China, who wrote in his Shiji: "The Western Earl, (i.e., King Wen) was probably in power for fifty years. When he was imprisoned at Youli, he probably increased the eight trigrams of the Yi into sixty-four hexagram." from E. Shaughnessy, The Composition of Zhou Yi The invention of the Trigrams is first ascribed to the legendary Emperor Bao Xi (or Fu Xi) in the Xici Zhuan, one of the "Ten Wings", of the Yi Jing: "In ancient times when Bao Xi (the Holder of the Sacrifices) ruled all under heaven, he looked up and contemplated the images in the sky he looked down and contemplated the patterns on earth, he contemplated the markings of birds and beasts and the appropriateness of the soil, from near at hand in his body and at a distance for things in general. From this he invented the eight diagrams in order to communicate with the virtues of the bright spirits and in order to classify the nature of the myriad things." from N.-J. Wu, Yi Jing In Hermann Hesse's classic, The Glass Bead Game, the Trigram images are among the first instances of the Yi in western literature. The youthful Joseph Knecht, the future Game Master, is introduced to Chinese thought by Elder Brother, who consults the Yi Jing with yarrow stalks on Knecht's request to study with him as his disciple. "The sage sat crosslegged on the floor of reed matting, for a long time silently examining the result of the augury on the sheet of paper. 'It is the sign Meng,' he said. 'This sign bears the name: youthful folly. Above the mountain, below the water; above Gan, below Kan. At the foot of the mountain a spring bubbles forth, the symbol of youth.'" These Trigram images are a wonderfully evocative way to symbolize the situations presented by the Hexagrams. My own studies of the Yi led me to the Chinese language and its ancient pictorial beginnings. Chinese words are composed of picture elements, and the basis of their etymology is now founded upon thousands of remnants of "dragon bones." The dragon bones are the ancient Shang inscriptions of divinations recorded on turtle shell (see Sources of Shang History: The Oracle-Bone Inscriptions of Bronze Age China by David N. Keightley). Each Hexagram name is a pictorial image as well. The various character elements present a pictorial image for the Hexagram situation. In Homer's classic, The Odyssey, the imagery of the Chinese picture character for Meng (Hexagram 4)--a boar beneath a woody covering--is beautifully evoked when the youthful Prince Odysseus is hunting a boar hunt in a wooded mountain glen... "Odysseus out in front now, pressing the dogs, brandishing high his spear with its long shadow waving. Then and there a great boar lay in wait, in a thicket lair so dense that the sodden gusty winds could never pierce it, nor could the sun's sharp rays invade its depths nor a downpour drench it through and through, so dense, so dark, and piled with fallen leaves." For each Hexagram there are two symbolic images that can be evoked--the image from the Trigrams and the image from the picture elements in the Hexagram name. In seeking correspondence, coincidence, and synchronicity in that which surrounds a particular Hexagram in a given situation, the mind can play with the symbolism of both of these images. For an inquisitive mind, one wonders how these images compare. Are the pictorial images in the Hexagram Names drawn from the symbolism in the Trigram elements? Did the ancient Sages give names to the Hexagrams using these Trigram images? Let us first consider the example of Hexagram 4, Meng [Youthful Folly, in the Wilhelm/Baynes translation], Mountain over Water. In the pictorial elements contained in the Chinese name, there is neither the character for Water nor Mountain. However, there is Wood, in the woody cover over the boar. Hence, the Name Meng, contains images that are not in the standard imagery of the Trigrams. This may be studied systematically, considering the Chinese name each of Hexagram, and comparing its pictorial elements with the constituent Trigrams. First, a couple of observations seem striking. In no Chinese Hexagram Name does the pictorial element Fire appear. Is this happenstance or purpose? The Yi, which used yarrow stalks, came to replace pyromancy, the burning of cracks in a turtle shell. Is the lack of Fire in the Yi a judgement in choosing not to use Fire for divination? Yet neither is Mountain in any Name. Nor Wind. Nor Lake. Water. The Trigram element for Water actually looks like the ancient picture form of water. There is Water in the pictorial elements of the Names of Hexagrams 59 [Dispersion] and 64 [Before Completion] (lower Trigram Water) and in Hexagrams 5 [Waiting] and 63 [After Completion] (upper Trigram Water or rain). Of the 16 Hexagrams with Water as a Trigram, only 4 show this element water/rain in the pictorial images in the Names. Hexagram 53 [Slow Progress] includes Water as a nuclear Trigram. Hexagram 51 [Shock] has rain as a pictorial element, and Water is a nuclear Trigram. Of the 16 Hexagrams with Water as a nuclear Trigram, only 4 show the element water/rain in the pictorial images: Hexagrams 51[Shock], 53 [Slow Progress] and 63 [After Completion], 64 [Before Completion]. Water or rain appears in pictorial elements of Hexagram Names that do not have constituent Water Trigrams. These include Hexagrams 11 [Peace] and 42 [Increase]. The lack of correspondence between the watery image of a cup overflowing in Hexagram 42 [Increase] and any Water Trigram constituent is perhaps surprising. Here the imagery of the Trigrams and pictorial elements of the Name complement and provide a far-reaching vision of the concept of "Increase". Wood/Wind. The images of Wind and Wind are coupled, and the lack of Wind in the pictorial elements of the Names has been noted. For Wood we may, as for water and rain, consider its broader forms: a tree, vines, a wooden table or stand, plants, jungle. Of the Hexagrams with Trigrams of Wood, the only Hexagrams with pictorial elements of Wood in the Names are 48 [Well], 50 [Ting], and 57 [Gentle], plus 53 [Slow Progress] if we include a chariot as wooden. For the nuclear Trigrams of Wood, the Hexagrams 45 [Gathering Together], 47 [Exhaustion], and 56 [Wanderer] all have wooden pictorial elements in their Names. As with Water, the percentage of the Hexagrams with a Trigram of Wood that actually contain a wooden pictorial element in the Name are few. There are wooden or plant pictorial elements in a many more Hexagram Names that are without a constituent Wood Trigram. These include Hexagrams 1 [Creative], 3 [Difficulty in the Beginning], 4 [Youthful Folly], 5 [Waiting], 15 [Modesty], 21 [Biting Through], 22 [Grace], 23 [Splitting Apart], 34 [Power of the Great], 38 [Opposition], 54 [Marrying Maiden], 60 [Limitation], 63 [After Completion], 64 [Before Completion]. Earth. For the Trigram Earth, only Hexagram 2 [Receptive] has the specific pictorial element earth in its Hexagram Name. Including an earthen rampart, the Hexagram 7 [Army] may be counted as well. The nuclear Trigram Earth is found only in Name of Hexagram 3 [Difficulty in the Beginning] as a plant emerging from the earth. Hexagram 29 [Abysmal], the eponymous Hexagram of the doubled Trigram Water, contains earth as part of its Name. Hexagrams 17 [Following] and 54 [Marrying Maiden] each contain an earthen rampart in their Names. However, neither Hexagram contains the Trigram Earth. Heaven. For the Trigram Heaven, only the first Hexagram [Creative] apparently contains an element of spirit as mist rising in the light. Hexagram 38 [Opposition] contains either an arrow or the sky as an element of its Name, yet contains no Trigram of Heaven. Thunder/Lightning. Only the eponymous Hexagram 51 [Shock] with the doubled Trigram of Thunder contains a pictorial element in its Name (the lower picture element) that may be construed as lightning or thunder. Hexagram 2 [Receptive] contains a pictorial element as the right character in its Name that may be lightning, yet contains no Trigram of Thunder/Lightning. Fire. As noted earlier, there is no fire in the pictorial elements in the Hexagram Names of the Yi. However, taking a larger view of Fire as the light of the sun or moon as a constituent pictorial element, Hexagrams 14 [Possession in Great Measure], 35 [Progress], and 36 [Darkening of the Light] contain the Trigram Fire. Hexagram 1 [Creative] includes light as a pictorial element in its Name, but is composed solely of the Trigram Heaven. Lake. There is no lake in the pictorial elements of the Hexagram Names of the Yi. Even broadening the scope of lake to water, there is no correspondence with the Trigrams of Lake. Only in the nuclear Trigrams of Hexagrams 5 [Waiting] and 11 [Peace] are pictorial elements of water in the Hexagram Names apparently linked with the Lake. Mountain. It is curious that mountains do not appear in the Zhou Yi except for the 3rd line of Hexagram 46 [Pushing Upward] and top line of Hexagram 17 [Following]. Of these, only Hexagram 17 contains the nuclear Trigram Mountain, which itself does not contain the top line with the character Mountain. What has this simple comparison shown? When we seek pictures of Trigram images in the Hexagram Names, only Water and Wood seem to play a major role in the composition of the picture elements of the Names. For Water, where the Trigram image is markedly similar to the ancient picture character for water, there is a natural correspondence. Even here, however, the correspondence is not one-to-one, but rather is about 25%. For Wood, there is a similar but not as direct a correspondence. For Wood, the pictorial elements were broadened to include "woody" things. Even in this instance the correspondence between Hexagrams with Wood Trigrams and woody picture elements in the Names is less than 25%. In contrast, over 40% of the Hexagrams without a Wood Trigram image do contain a woody picture element in the Name. Correspondence between other Trigrams and picture elements within the Hexagram Names is more tenuous or nonexistent. The Bard lends thoughtful words to our pondering... "What is thy name? I know thy quality." -from King Henry V "What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet." -from Romeo and Juliet It would seem that rather than correspondence between the Trigram images and picture elements of the Hexagram Names, we see a new dimension. It is like comparing North and South with East and West. The symbolic imagery of the Trigrams complements the symbolic imagery of the pictorial elements in the Hexagram Names. Lending a cue from the Bard, King Henry V sees the picture elements in the Hexagram Name and thereby knows its quality. Whereas, Juliet knows the Hexagram by the sweet imagery of the Trigrams, caring not what its Name is. What of the Sages of old? In a language as rich with pictures as Chinese, the evidence that the Hexagram Names correspond little with the Trigrams might lead one to infer something about the origins of the Names and the Trigrams. Yet, whether or not one influenced the other is academic. The vast symbolic countryside of imagery lies before. Whether we look one way or another, we are better knowing the breadth of the world of the Yi and the visions that lie in front of our eyes should we choose to see. from Much Ado about Nothing... "Let this be so, and doubt not but success Will fashion the event in better shape Than I can lay it down in likelihood." -William Shakespeare . ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Sun Feb 11 20:15:49 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f1B4K8X23067 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:20:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from fw.iris.edu (fw.iris.edu [198.77.109.66]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1B4K7K23061 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:20:07 -0500 Received: from [192.35.78.204] (dmac204.iris.edu [192.35.78.204]) by fw.iris.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1B4IGW70300 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:18:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rbutler@iris.edu) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A109C10.976B3ADC@independence.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:15:05 -0500 To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org From: "Dr R. Butler" Subject: Re: HEX8: Wangjiatai Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Hi All, Late last year Harmen offered a .pdf version of Edward Shaughnessy's Wangjiatai Guizang article. For anyone who asked for a copy, it was quite interesting. I got in touch with Ed for a couple of questions, and asked for a copy of one of the references listing the Hexagram names for Zhou Yi, Mawangdui, and Guizang. Its quite interesting, if you study the Names. I have magnified (x2)and scanned it as 3 .gif images. If you are interested, I'd be happy to forward them by email. Let me know by private email. All the best, Rhett >Hi everyone, > ... >And now for something completely different: > >Are you all familiar with the article of Edward Shaughnessy about the >Wangjiatai Guizang, published last year? I find it quite exciting that the >Guizang really seems te have existed. Maybe the Lianshan will be dug up too >someday. For those who don't have the article, please let me know (by private >mail, not through the H-8 list), and I'll send you a PDF-file version of it. > >All the best, > >Harmen. >------------------------------------------------------- >Visit my Yi Jing Page at > >http://home.wanadoo.nl/harmen.mesker! > >With: >- Links to interesting Yi Jing sites >- pictures of Richard Wilhelm and James Legge >- 22(!) fonts with the Chinese characters of the > hexagram names >- nice Yi Jing backgrounds for your desktop >- een Nederlandse I Tjing pagina (a Dutch Yi Jing page) >- recommended books >- more, more, more! >------------------------------------------------------- ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Sun Feb 11 20:18:43 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f187fSn20571 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 02:41:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f187fQK20567 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 02:41:27 -0500 Received: from heybo002wxs ([195.121.216.56]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id G8FH9X04.3VG for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:39:33 +0100 Message-ID: <002501c091a2$1bff0080$38d879c3@nl> From: "Postmaster AHeyboer" To: References: Subject: Re: HEX8: hx 43 line 4 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:36:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Hi everybody, (and wishing Robert's gongxi facai to everyone), I have been so busy that I could not even read mails. But here I am falling right in the middle of new Yi-possibilities. And handcomputer possibilities! They all say their product has 'power', if they described it as the power of a SM lady, I guess the handheld-sales would soar! And the same with the Yi-copies, just imagine the beautiful cover, with a lady in (a tiny bit of) leather with a whip. I like Fiedeler a lot. I was convinced for a long time that Bi (name of hex. 22) was a flower and had nothing to do with cowries, and in Fiedeler I found the original character. I was right! Later I found it in Schuessler too, but Fiedeler had won my heart. I have those Sabian Symbols, and for 43.4 it says "a drowning man rescued", that looks like being led like a sheep, rather than leading it. But I guess old Chinese proverbs are more proof, and what Fiedeler says is very convincing, 'subordinate in order not to face the worst'. Sheep in a flock all follow the others, but leading one is difficult, they are very stubborn and difficult to 'tame' (however tame they look). I think it describes what Michael did, mending his computer slowly and 'step by step '. It is not like hex.5, but if you look at hex.5 line 4, it fits: do not wait in the trouble but get out. 43.2 to 49.2: No use to get up in the middle of the night, but the next day was maybe a Si-day (snake-day, day of renewal and revolution)? Would be interesting to find out. January 18 was one. But Si-day can also mean it was the right moment for change and renewal for you and the computer, regardless of Snake-days. And about German, I am of Swiss origin, reading German books and talking something like it for years, but writing does not 'flow', I have to think about every word. So Hilary: reading it without having any such background is already quite an accomplishment . LiSe Book of the moon www.aheyboer.com postmaster@aheyboer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 7:52 PM Subject: Re: HEX8: hx 43 line 4 > In a message dated 1/26/2001 10:20:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, > bradford@independence.net writes: > > << > Sorry, but I still think it's no more complicated than simply getting > your ass whipped. And if you look at 44.3, and remember at the same > time the subject of the gua, the ass whipping is delivered by none other > than the powerful maiden. Regrets, but a night to remember. > >> > You are onto something important. The first documented instance of S&M in the > early Western Zhou. > > > ===== > To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org > from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. > ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Mon Feb 19 14:09:32 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f1JJ9W012854 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:09:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from marine.sonic.net (marine.sonic.net [208.201.224.37]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1JJ9VZ12848 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:09:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 15668 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2001 19:09:02 -0000 Received: from ultra.sonic.net (208.201.224.22) by marine.sonic.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2001 19:09:02 -0000 Received: from monitor.net (d252.nas3.seb.sonic.net [209.204.150.252]) by ultra.sonic.net (8.11.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id f1JJ90i27567 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:09:00 -0800 X-envelope-info: Message-ID: <3A910038.91F8CAF9@monitor.net> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:15:04 +0000 From: Danu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "hexagram-8@apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Entering Pisces: new Haiku Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Poseidon Scales Back Thunder roars above Justice waits while death watches Wind across the earth --Danu Haiku 2-19-2001 as our Sun re-encounters the Fishes in Winter's last phase of the new millennium ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Mon Feb 19 23:08:11 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f1K48Bk02607 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:08:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from fw.iris.edu (fw.iris.edu [198.77.109.66]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1K489Z02603 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:08:09 -0500 Received: from [192.35.78.201] (dmac201.iris.edu [192.35.78.201]) by fw.iris.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1K47UW15773 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:07:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rbutler@iris.edu) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A910038.91F8CAF9@monitor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:04:13 -0500 To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org From: "Dr R. Butler" Subject: Re: HEX8: Entering Pisces: new Haiku Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Hi Danu, first blossoming hint the crocus lets winter see its autumn colors Rhett > Poseidon Scales Back > > Thunder roars above >Justice waits while death watches > Wind across the earth > >--Danu Haiku 2-19-2001 > as our Sun re-encounters the Fishes >in Winter's last phase of the new millennium > > > >===== >To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org >from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Tue Feb 20 14:30:04 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f1KJU4Z02874 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:30:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from marine.sonic.net (marine.sonic.net [208.201.224.37]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1KJU2Z02870 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:30:03 -0500 Received: (qmail 20101 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 19:29:38 -0000 Received: from prop.sonic.net (208.201.224.193) by marine.sonic.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 19:29:38 -0000 Received: from monitor.net (d101.nas1.seb.sonic.net [209.204.150.101]) by prop.sonic.net (8.11.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id f1KJTbs00631 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:29:37 -0800 X-envelope-info: Message-ID: <3A92569A.F92E6596@monitor.net> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:35:55 +0000 From: Danu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Subject: Re: HEX8: Entering Pisces: Da new Haiku2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org IYO Rhett, Alarm sounds on high Stern Heron eyes, waits...then swoops Earth yields a new fish Danu Haiku 2-20-2001 Dr R. Butler wrote: > Hi Danu, > > first blossoming hint > the crocus lets winter see > its autumn colors > > Rhett > > > Poseidon Scales Back > > > > Thunder roars above > >Justice waits while death watches > > Wind across the earth > > > >--Danu Haiku 2-19-2001 > > as our Sun re-encounters the Fishes > >in Winter's last phase of the new millennium ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Tue Feb 20 21:46:05 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f1L2k5e26352 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:46:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from fw.iris.edu (fw.iris.edu [198.77.109.66]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1L2k4Z26348 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:46:04 -0500 Received: from [192.35.78.201] (dmac201.iris.edu [192.35.78.201]) by fw.iris.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1L2jgW94506 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:45:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rbutler@iris.edu) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A92569A.F92E6596@monitor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:42:41 -0500 To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org From: "Dr R. Butler" Subject: Re: HEX8: Entering Pisces: Da new Haiku2 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Hi Danu, Contemplating eyes Seeing a water Yi gift A moment fulfilled Rhett PS What is "IYO" ?:-) >IYO Rhett, > >Alarm sounds on high >Stern Heron eyes, waits...then swoops >Earth yields a new fish > >Danu Haiku 2-20-2001 > >Dr R. Butler wrote: > >> Hi Danu, >> >> first blossoming hint >> the crocus lets winter see >> its autumn colors >> >> Rhett >> >> > Poseidon Scales Back >> > >> > Thunder roars above >> >Justice waits while death watches >> > Wind across the earth >> > >> >--Danu Haiku 2-19-2001 >> > as our Sun re-encounters the Fishes >> >in Winter's last phase of the new millennium > > > >===== >To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org >from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Wed Feb 28 19:12:47 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f210ClA07874 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:12:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from mail5.svr.pol.co.uk (mail5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.20]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f210CkW07870 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:12:46 -0500 Received: from modem-212.helium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.1.212] helo=q8w9y0) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14YGii-0007oz-00 for hexagram-8@apocalypse.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:13:25 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c0a1e4$c83c8a00$45affea9@q8w9y0> From: "Hilary Barrett" To: "hexagram-8" Subject: HEX8: indispensable translation Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:14:22 -0000 Organization: Clarity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Hello Bradford (and all), ****Thank you***** for your translation, which is seeing a lot of use at present and fast becoming indispensable. How is the great work coming on? (When will we be seeing it at Amazon?) All best wishes! Hilary ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE.