From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Wed Jul 11 04:30:03 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6B8U3Z03283 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 04:30:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6B8U0B03271 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 04:30:00 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.117]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GGAVLY00.F44 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:29:58 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c109e3$a76dc660$757279c3@heybo002> From: "heybo008" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram for July 11 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:29:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time. If anyone has experience, then please share it! July 11 Sun: a 19 until 05.50 GMT (after this time comes hex.52.2, see July 12) Hex.51.2 The shock comes, danger. A hundred thousand lost coins. Climb the nine mounds, do not pursue, the seventh day you will acquire them. Do not fear loss, do not chase after things. You have what belongs to you, and if you lose it, it will return again. Fears are apt to chase things rather than to hold them. Sabian Symbol: A priest performing a marriage ceremony Ceremonies are medicine against fear of losing. ° Changing to 54.2 Dim-eyed yet able to see. Harvest: determination of a hermit. Make your life not bigger than you are yourself. Its richness does not depend on its size, but on your presence in it. If you fill in your territory everywhere to its borders, it is a greater life than an unlimited space which is not full. Sabian Symbol: A woman awaiting a sailboat If your life is the waiting, you live. If it is the boat, you don't. * July 12 Sun: a 20 until 07.03 Hex.52.2 One cannot save anyone's soul. One can only give the tools one's own soul harbors, like love, harmony, creativity, even the sharing of sadness. It is up to the other how to use it. Sabian Symbol: Gondoliers in a serenade ° Changing to 18.2 Ramming against the mother's decay. No determination possible. You exist, you live, but if nobody sees, then you almost cannot see it yourself anymore. So make them hear, live visible, audible, touchable. Don't just happen to be on the world but live. Make everyone see and hear, make yourself see and hear. Move! Sabian Symbol: A woman suffragist orating. LiSe YiJing, Book of the Moon www.aheyboer.com Nothing bad - nothing good Find your original face NOW ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Fri Jul 13 15:21:40 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6DJLea24155 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:21:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6DJLbB24148 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:21:38 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.100]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GGFF3V02.ISM for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:21:31 +0200 Message-ID: <000b01c10bd1$034c7fa0$647279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 12-13-14 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:21:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 12 Until 07.30 GMT see previous mail >From 07.30 rest of the day until July 13, 08:15 GMT: Hex.53.2 The wild goose gradually approaches the huge rock. Eat and drink full of joy. Auspicious. It's the small things together that make a relation strong and lasting. When meals are moments of peace and togetherness, when expressions talk of joy and love, when voices sound harmonious, then the relation will last a lifetime. Not words are important, but the feelings they bear. Sabian Symbol: A primadonna singing ° Changing to 57.2 Seal assignment below the stand. Use numerous chroniclers and shamans. Auspicious. No fault. Often, and especially in contacts, one cannot decide beforehand what is good and what not. One has to listen to one's intuition at the moment itself. Listen with great care! It is extremely important not to get involved with bad forces or to get influenced into making wrong decisions. Sabian Symbol: A dark shadow or mantle thrown suddenly over the right shoulder * July 13 until 08.15 GMT see 'Hexagram July 12-13 >From 08.15 rest of the day, until July 14, 09:20 GMT: Hex.54.2 Dim-eyed yet able to see. Harvest: determination of a hermit. Make your life not bigger than you are yourself. Its richness does not depend on its size, but on your presence in it. If you fill in your territory everywhere to its borders, it is a greater life than an unlimited space which is not full. Sabian Symbol: A woman awaiting a sailboat If your life is the waiting, you live. If it is the boat, you don't. ° Changing to 51.2 The shock comes, danger. A hundred thousand lost coins. Climb the nine mounds, do not pursue, the seventh day you will acquire them. Do not fear loss, do not chase after things. You have what belongs to you, and if you lose it, it will return again. Fears are apt to chase things rather than to hold them. Sabian Symbol: A priest performing a marriage ceremony Ceremonies are medicine against fear of losing. * LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Sat Jul 14 14:38:31 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6EIcVR03257 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:38:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6EIcTB03249 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:38:29 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.197]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GGH7S304.F7U for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:38:27 +0200 Message-ID: <000b01c10c94$28a85c60$c57279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 14-15 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:36:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 14 until 09:20 GMT see 'Hexagram July 13 -14 >From 09:20 rest of the day, until July 15, 10:30 GMT: Hex.55.2 A total eclipse. At midday one sees the Dipper. To proceed brings doubt and illness. If one is true, one gathers expansion. (Circumstances can be totally frustrating. So imagine your life, according to what you truly are or want. Some write their life in concrete, others in their mind, it does not matter how you write it - just do it, and come out with it) Sabian Symbol: Meeting of a literary society (People are inclined to imitate what others do. So it is important that values are shown, discussed, explained. Warning for evil things does some good, showing good things makes humanity move to a higher plane) ° Changing to 34.2 Determination auspicious. (If one has power inside, one has no need of proving it. Having power is not a matter of exerting it, but of being it. The strength to make your mind true and happy in all circumstances is a greater power than having power over someone or something else) Sabian Symbol: A man suspended over a vast level place (Not choosing a stand or a limited space is power without limits) (Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe YiJing, Book of the Moon www.aheyboer.com Nothing bad - nothing good Find your original face NOW ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Sat Jul 14 14:50:16 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6EIoGn03687 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:50:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from protactinium (protactinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.176]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6EIoEB03682 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:50:15 -0400 Received: from [213.123.119.86] (helo=athena) by protactinium with smtp (Exim 3.22 #9) id 15LUUX-00040c-00 for hexagram-8@apocalypse.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 19:50:13 +0100 From: Ian J Greely To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Subject: Re: HEX8: Hexagram July 14-15 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 19:50:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <000b01c10c94$28a85c60$c57279c3@heybo002> In-Reply-To: <000b01c10c94$28a85c60$c57279c3@heybo002> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by apocalypse.org id f6EIoFB03683 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org I want to say a hearty thanks for these daily oracles. A nice touch. regards, Ian ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Sun Jul 15 13:55:53 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6FHtrV12703 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:55:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6FHtpB12699 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:55:52 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.215]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GGJ0GZ00.NJ8 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 19:55:47 +0200 Message-ID: <001401c10d57$5ed1ad00$d77279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: References: <000b01c10c94$28a85c60$c57279c3@heybo002> Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 15-16 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 19:54:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian J Greely" To: Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 8:50 PM Subject: Re: HEX8: Hexagram July 14-15 > I want to say a hearty thanks for these daily oracles. > > A nice touch. > > regards, > Ian Thanks! LiSe July 15 until 10:30 GMT see 'Hexagram July 14-15 >From 10:30 rest of the day, until July 16, 11:40 GMT: Hex.56.2 The wanderer comes to a resting-place, cherishes his belongings and acquires a boy-servant. Determination. (Satisfaction with one's life makes a resting place to a place of rest. To be happy with everything, not longing for more, different or better is the key to feeling at home. One does not 'find' a home, one makes a place to a home) Sabian Symbol: A woman and two men on a bit of sunlit land facing south (With jealousy: war. Without: paradise) ° Changing to 50.2 The cauldron is richly filled. My companions are struck by disease. It cannot reach me. Auspicious. (Who has inner strength cannot be infected, who has a rich mind - or sees his life a rich - knows no envy, a healthy plant has no lice. Life supports life, it makes itself survive) Sabian Symbol: A hen scratching for her chicks (Eternal life is not life without an end, it is living on in new lives) (Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Mon Jul 16 07:14:27 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6GBER911888 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:14:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6GBEPB11884 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:14:25 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.79]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GGKCJV03.KDK for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:14:19 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c10de8$744f1c80$4f7279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 16-17 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:13:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 16 until 11:40 GMT see 'Hexagram July 15-16 >From 11:40 rest of the day, until July 17, 12:50 GMT: 57.2 Seal assignment below the stand. Use numerous chroniclers and shamans. Auspicious. No fault. (Often, and especially in contacts, one cannot decide beforehand what is good and what not. One has to listen to one's intuition at the moment itself. Listen with great care! It is extremely important not to get involved with bad forces or to get influenced into making wrong decisions) Sabian Symbol: A dark shadow or mantle thrown suddenly over the right shoulder (One feels always a warning when evil comes near) ° Changing to 53.2 The wild goose gradually approaches the huge rock. Eat and drink full of joy. Auspicious. (It's the small things together that make a relation strong and lasting. When meals are moments of peace and togetherness, when expressions talk of joy and love, when voices sound harmonious, then the relation will last a lifetime. Not words are important, but the feelings they bear) Sabian Symbol: A primadonna singing (It is not the voice, it is the heart) (Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Mon Jul 16 08:07:37 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6GC7bM13187 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:07:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6GC7ZB13183 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:07:35 -0400 Received: from Frankelmick@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.7.) id h.fc.913e59b (15868) for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web37.aolmail.aol.com (web37.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.13]) by air-id06.mail.aol.com (v79.27) with ESMTP id MAILINID67-0716080730; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:07:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:07:30 EDT From: Frankelmick@aol.com Subject: HEX8: Website for beginner To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Can anyone recommend a website that gives a good introduction to the I Ching ? A colleague of mine is a martial artist who's shown me a Kung Fu book where Yin/Yang is interpreted as meaning attack/defend. (I can explain a bit more if anyone's interested.) He'd like to learn about the I Ching. Any thoughts ? Thanks. Every best wish, Mick ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Mon Jul 16 14:58:46 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6GIwkW00967 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:58:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6GIwgB00963 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:58:44 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.40]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GGKY1O03.LWK for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:58:36 +0200 Message-ID: <000401c10e29$50b3e760$287279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 17-18 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:21:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 17 until 12:50 GMT see 'Hexagram July 16-17 >From 12:50 rest of the day, until July 18, 14:00 GMT: Hex.58.2 True exchange, auspicious. Repentance goes away. (Deep and relaxed exchange makes all heaviness go away. Talking or even only feeling the others presence puts everything in perspective. A shared heavy heart weighs only half as much, a shared happy one is twice as happy) Sabian Symbol: Contentment and happiness in luxury, people reading on Davenports (Shared relaxing is quadruple relaxing) ° Changing to 17.2 Related to the small child, losing the big man. (One can fulfill one life. As long as the small is possible, the big cannot be found. So live the small. To follow higher aims is not a question of ability, but of impossibility to follow anything else. Another meaning of this line: follow like a child, and follow what is innocent in the other. This is the most complete following ever) Sabian Symbol: Two Dutch children talking (Same interests is great - or small? Depends) (Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Tue Jul 17 13:17:10 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6HHHAf26558 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:17:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6HHH8B26554 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:17:08 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.97]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GGMO0D01.0DL for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:17:01 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c10ee4$4960d660$617279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 18-19 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:16:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 18 until 14:00 GMT see 'Hexagram July 17-18 >From 14:00 rest of the day, until July 19, 15:05 GMT: Hex.59.2 To disperse and grasp one's chance make an end to regret. (One can immediately recognize and grasp chances if the mind is versatile, open for anything. One sees what one expects to see, so expect everything in order not to miss anything) Sabian Symbol: A storm in a canyon (Grasp anything you can hold on to) ° Changing to 20.2 Contemplation with a narrow view. Harvest: woman's determination. (If you can see only a small part of something, then stay nimble and open. Creativity can do a lot with few possibilities, if one refrains from a predetermined course, always ready to answer to the moment) Sabian Symbol: Two Chinese men talking Chinese. (Only Chinese - or all this great Chinese) (Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Tue Jul 17 13:34:04 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6HHY4R27526 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:34:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6HHY2B27521 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:34:03 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.211]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GGMOSK01.OJT for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:33:56 +0200 Message-ID: <001e01c10ee6$a683b180$617279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: References: Subject: HEX8: Re: Website for beginner Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:33:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org I don't know if it is 'done' to recommend my own website, and I have no idea if this is what he is looking for. I like it - would be weird if I didn't - but it is not THE I Ching. It is all my personal ideas. The best thing I ever saw is an I Ching software, made by Marc Griggs-Smith. You can download a restricted version at http://sundialler.com/yi_jing/index.html Complete it is 30 UK pounds. But I don't think that is what he wants. Good is Dan Stackhouse http://users.lanminds.com/tlc/iching/ but he gives only the hexagrams and not the lines. A great site if you want to know meanings of characters: www.ns.net/~cpolish/DEFAULT.HTM The whole (almost..) Yi Jing. Click on any character and you get its meaning and occurrences. Makoto Ogino: http://member.nifty.ne.jp/index_Z/index.htm It is about the I Ching in Japan, but you find here a lot of wonderful information about the I Ching and many many other related systems. Extremely good and extensive. No I Ching, but a lot of information. A beautiful site about I Ching with the possibility to get a (high quality) reading: www.onlineclarity.co.uk There is a 'friends forum' where one can read many questions with answers (most about love, seems to be the hottest topic in most people's life) Same author: readings of all hexagrams. Interesting to see how others explain their cast. Add yours! www.ichingresources.co.uk LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: HEX8: Website for beginner > Can anyone recommend a website that gives a good introduction to the I Ching ? > > A colleague of mine is a martial artist who's shown me a Kung Fu book where Yin/Yang is interpreted as meaning attack/defend. (I can explain a bit more if anyone's interested.) He'd like to learn about the I Ching. Any thoughts ? > > Thanks. > > Every best wish, > > Mick > > > ===== > To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org > from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Wed Jul 18 02:04:35 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6I64ZD01787 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 02:04:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6I64WB01780 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 02:04:33 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.22]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GGNNJE01.A4E for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 08:04:26 +0200 Message-ID: <001601c10f4f$7f88f680$167279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" References: Subject: HEX8: Re: Website for beginner-hex.29 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 08:04:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org For a martial artist, hexagram 29! The tag of hex.29 is not 'pit' but 'repeated pit'. This is important, repeating is Xi, and this character is a picture of the beating of wings. Something done again and again. Its meanings are practice, routine, skill, rehearsing, habit, teaching by repeating. So the name can be repeated danger, but also getting used to danger, or reversed: the danger of routine. The text accompanying hex.29 on my website: "To get out of dangers or misery is not by solving problems. It is by leaving the fear. In the arts of fighting one learns to get used to danger, so it does not call up fear anymore, and defense can come entirely out of one's skill. No fear interfering. Then one can be like water, adapting, fitting into any form. Water in a cup acquires the form of the cup, in a lake the form of the lake. It is smooth and flowing - and can be terribly crushing. Deep inside one has a stable, quiet and safe core, but in the course of life, most people forget about it. Just remember and no danger can afflict you. Visit the dark secret depths of your heart and bring the wisdom of your soul back to life. Water is the primeval chaos, the great mother of everything, without form or limit, eternal. It is a gift of the gods, and to go to its source is to return to holiness". LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: HEX8: Website for beginner > Can anyone recommend a website that gives a good introduction to the I Ching ? > > A colleague of mine is a martial artist who's shown me a Kung Fu book where Yin/Yang is interpreted as meaning attack/defend. (I can explain a bit more if anyone's interested.) He'd like to learn about the I Ching. Any thoughts ? > > Thanks. > > Every best wish, > > Mick > > > ===== > To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org > from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Wed Jul 18 06:34:52 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6IAYqe10086 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 06:34:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6IAYpB10082 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 06:34:51 -0400 Received: from Frankelmick@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.7.) id h.11f.1d1ff8b (15863) for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 06:34:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web47.aolmail.aol.com (web47.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.8]) by air-id06.mail.aol.com (v79.27) with ESMTP id MAILINID62-0718063443; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 06:34:43 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 06:34:43 EDT From: Frankelmick@aol.com Subject: Re: HEX8: Re: Website for beginner-hex.29 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <11f.1d1ff8b.2886c043@aol.com> Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org LiSe, Wonderful stuff ! Thanks very much for this and for the website links. (I think it's fine to recommend your own site). I get a martial arts type feeling from hx 57 as well. The same sense of adapting, filling any space but being able to strike with irresistible power. Thanks again, Mick ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Wed Jul 18 08:40:35 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6ICeZc13805 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 08:40:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6ICeYB13801 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 08:40:34 -0400 Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.78.17.140]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010718124028.HJDX5127.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:40:28 +0000 Message-ID: <3B5583E0.20CAA2D8@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 08:41:04 -0400 From: Lare/Mo Lei-Li Organization: Jehovah's Witness Relocation Program X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Subject: Re: HEX8: Re: Website for beginner-hex.29 References: <001601c10f4f$7f88f680$167279c3@heybo002> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org LiSe wrote: > "To get out of dangers or misery is not by solving problems. It is by > leaving the fear. Thanks for this reminder, LiSe. (And for the simplified exposition) -Mo Lei-Li ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Wed Jul 18 14:25:10 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6IIPAg32039 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:25:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6IIP8B32035 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:25:08 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.16]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GGOLTP03.H3Y for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:25:01 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c10fb6$f5516020$107279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 19-20 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:24:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 19 until 15:05 GMT see 'Hexagram July 18-19 >From 15:05 rest of the day, until July 20, 16:15 GMT: Hex.60.2 Not coming out of gate and court, pitfall. (You have your own rhythm and pitch, but if you never play with others you may find yourself off-tune and not able to join in with songs anymore. Do not take habits and opinions (yours or theirs) for granted, but make yourself and others always stay open for the different and new) Sabian Symbol: A modern Pocahontas (Saving an enemy might prove to be saving a friend) ° Changing to 3.2 Then sprouting, then proceeding with difficulty, then driving a team of horses. No bandit: a marital suitor. Girls determination: no babies. Ten years, then babies. (Don't just be a reaction on what comes up to you: running when all seems easy, and frustrated by the first obstacle. Things cannot be accomplished just like that, they need time and thought. So don't rush, but don't let anything stop you either) Sabian Symbol: glass-bottomed boat in still water. (If you can be very quiet and clear, you can see everything as it is) (Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Fri Jul 20 08:04:49 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6KC4nJ09969 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 08:04:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6KC4lB09965 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 08:04:47 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.30]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GGRTJQ01.F06 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:04:38 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c11114$2725eea0$1e7279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 20-21 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:04:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 20 until 16:15 GMT see 'Hexagram July 18-19 >From 16:15 rest of the day, until July 21, 17:25 GMT: Hex.61.2 A crane calling on the shady Northern slope. Its young joins in singing. I have a good wine-cup, I will empty it together with you. (The roots of every interaction are deep inside. If your words and actions are a true mirror of what lives in your heart, they will be creative and able to stir up a reaction in others. The greatness of an artist is in the first place determined by his faithfulness to his truth, and only secondly by his talent. Talent without truth makes kitsch.) Sabian Symbol: A Muse weighing twins (Art comes into being when heart and actions, left and right, are identical.) ° Changing to 42.2 Someone's increase. Ten pairs of tortoise shells cannot oppose it. A long range determination is auspicious. The king presents an offering to the Supreme Being. Auspicious. (Gods are an 'outside' which is deep inside, the inner spark, the Golden Flower, the gem, whatever. This inner spark is the reason for being augmented, no augury will ever contradict it. Other people or fate will cooperate too.) Sabian Symbol: A large diamond not completely carved (The cutter can judge and see the result before anything is visible.) (Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Sat Jul 21 15:18:24 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6LJIOI14350 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 15:18:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6LJIMB14344 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 15:18:22 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.153]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GGU8AL03.W0R for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 21:18:21 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c11219$e8b2d140$997279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 21-22 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 21:17:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 21 until 17:25 GMT see 'Hexagram July 21 >From 17:25 rest of the day, until July 22, 18:30 GMT: Hex.62.2 Passing by one's grandfather. Meeting one's grandmother. Not reaching to one's chief. Meeting his servant. Without fault. (The farmer prefers the chicken over the pheasant, because the profit it gives is certain. The chicken prefers the farmers wife, because she scatters the grain. Higher is seldom better.) Sabian Symbol: A Daughter of the American Revolution (Not eager for another revolution when life is good) ° Changing to 32.2 Regrets disappear. (When one is master over one's passions, one can find in life many opportunities or blessings, love or contacts, which are denied to those in whom they conjure up greed or lust. Beauty is a thing to enjoy, not to grab.) Sabian Symbol: Bathing beauties (A decent way of showing or seeing a lot) (Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Mon Jul 23 09:52:00 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6NDq0l31775 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:52:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6NDpwB31770 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:51:58 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.241]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GGXIIH03.WD1 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:51:53 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c1137e$a36692a0$f17279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 22-23 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:51:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 22 until 18:30 GMT Hexagram 62.2 (see mail July 21-22) >From 18:30 rest of the day, until July 23, 19:40 GMT: Hex. 3.3 Approaching the deer without precaution, it only enters deep into the forest. The noble man feels the signs, so stops. To proceed brings distress. (Who charges at things without thinking will put them to flight. A lot of fuss only makes the goal recede. Careful, step by step and with diplomacy, that way one accomplishes most.) Sabian Symbol: A case of apoplexy. (Blood is not made to boil) ° Changing to 63.3 The high ancestor subjugates the Gui region. In 3 years he conquers it. Small people are of no use. (Conquering and subsequently keeping things can only succeed with patience, tenacity, perseverance, purposive-ness. In other words: with a strong character. One moment of inattention or weakness and all may be lost.) (this hexagram has no Sabian Symbols) (Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Tue Jul 24 13:20:16 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6OHKGs14547 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:20:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6OHKEB14543 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:20:15 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.4]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GGZMTJ02.IB2 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:20:07 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c11464$e5cd32c0$047279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 23-24-25 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:19:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 23 until 19:40 GMT Hexagram 3 line3 (see mail July 22-23) >From 19:40 rest of the day, until July 24, 20:30 GMT: Hex.4.3 No benefit of taking a woman who, when she sees a rich man, loses control of herself. No ground for harvest. (Imitating slavishly or running after urges causes loss of one's own character and dignity. In your own eyes as well as in other's eyes.) Sabian Symbol: An epidemic of mumps (Getting infected means losing one's face.) ° Changing to 18.3 Ramming against the father's decay. There is some regret. Without big fault. (Fighting decay and weakness will only succeed if one exaggerates a bit. Straightening something bent needs a little bending in the other direction.) Sabian Symbol: Sunshine just after a storm (Never seen a brighter world) July 24 until 20:30 GMT Hexagram 3 line3 (see above) >From 20:30 rest of the day, until July 25, 21:50 GMT: Hex.5.3 Waiting in the mud. It will attract bandits. (Feelings have a tendency to fall asleep when they have to wait. Sometimes an impulsive, maybe foolish, act is better than becoming dull. Dullness can cause much greater disaster than an occasional foolishness.) Sabian Symbol: A woman having her hair bobbed. (Off is off, so be happy with it.) ° Changing to 60.3 Not gathering restraint, the consequence is gathering laments. No fault. (If one's nature is not to restrain oneself, one gets into trouble. Don't lament it too much: it is part of what you are. If you accept yourself, then accept the trouble too.) Sabian Symbol: A baldheaded man (The old folks said: too much sex. Science says: too much male hormones.) (Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe YiJing, Book of the Moon www.aheyboer.com Nothing bad - nothing good Find your original face NOW ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Wed Jul 25 13:16:30 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6PHGU720118 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:16:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6PHGTB20114 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:16:29 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.102]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GH1HB902.NT6 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:16:21 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c1152d$8a732c80$667279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 25-26 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:16:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 25 until 21:50 GMT Hexagram 5 line3 (see above) >From 21:50 rest of the day, until July 26, 23:00 GMT: Hex.6.3 To feed on ancient virtue. Determination: danger. In the end: auspicious. If following king's affairs: without accomplishment. (Having earned one's merit is great, but don't make a habit of relying on it. It may help you get an official job, but not achievement. For achieving one has to renew and prove one's value day after day. Even so when one's merits are officially approved already.) Sabian Symbol: A man formally dressed and a deer with its horns folded (Wait till you see them in the weekend, climbing mountains.) [for this one I will have to find a better comment] ° Changing to 44.3 The buttocks without skin. Might be the journey had an inferior start. Danger. Without great fault. (The heart enters everything new too impulsive. But the heart can also notice immediately if anything feels wrong: listen to it. If you change right in the beginning, it is still possible to make a new start and make your voyage or enterprise a prosperous one. And: For making a heir one has to take off all make-believe and stand naked. If you really want to accomplish something together, then show yourself with all your good and bad assets. That way your start will lack decorum, but it will be healthy.) Sabian Symbol: A bride with her veil snatched away (They say it is a bad omen. For Lea maybe? Not for Jacob.) (Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe YiJing, Book of the Moon www.aheyboer.com Nothing bad - nothing good Find your original face NOW ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Fri Jul 27 13:35:25 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6RHZPu15368 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:35:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6RHZNB15363 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:35:24 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.185]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GH57IS03.BLR for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:35:16 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c116c2$8400dc80$b97279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 27-28 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:35:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 27 Whole day until 0:10 GMT July 28 Hexagram 7 line3 After July 28 0:10 GMT: Hex.8.3 Standing by bad people. (Be severe in what you accept and what not. One rotten apple can spoil a whole basket, so throw it out. If that is not possible, then leave yourself. You have just one life, don't waste it.) Sabian Symbol: An old-fashioned woman and a flapper (Both okay but wrong combination) ° Changing to 39.3 To proceed: limping. To come: reversing. (When your life does not feel good, then turn inward and examine your true feelings. Do you live what agrees with you? Do you have the feelings you want to have, find the meaning in life you seek? Be severe and discard everything you do not want, and go to everything you need. If you are not severe, you will waste a lot of time, maybe even a lifetime.) Sabian Symbol: A harem (Where life is good and complete, no locked doors are needed) (Time is given for Greenwich main time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Sun Jul 29 14:41:03 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6TIf3q10624 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:41:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6TIf1B10620 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:41:02 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.246]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GH8ZW703.JZ6 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:40:55 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c1185e$06164600$f67279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 29-30 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:40:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 29 1:10 GMT until July 30 02.20 GMT: Hex.9 line 3 July 30 02.20 GMT until July 31 03.20 GMT: Hex.10.3 Squinting, able to observe. Limping, able to walk. Tailing the tiger, he bites man, pitfall. A soldier acting like a great chief. (As long as one acts within one's abilities, no tiger will bite. A small thing done in a great way is great, a great thing done in a small way is small.) Sabian Symbol: A Bolshevik propagandist (Improving your own culture is hard, but swapping it for another one is no solution) ° Changing to 1.3 A noble man is the whole day creative. In the evening he is alert like in danger. Without fault. (Go ahead if Tao goes ahead, turn back if Tao turns back. Stay in tune with the universe, nobody can ever go another way than Tao and still keep his strength and good fortune.) (Time is given for Greenwich Main Time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Mon Jul 30 14:28:53 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6UISrW26187 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:28:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6UISpB26183 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:28:52 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.128]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GHATZX04.21G for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:28:45 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c11925$7d68f780$807279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 30-31 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:28:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 29 July 30 02.20 GMT until July 31 03.20 GMT: hex.10, line 3 July 31 03.20 GMT until August 1 04.30 GMT: Hex.11.3 Without level places no slopes. Without going no returning. In hard conditions determination: no fault. Do not worry over the inevitable. Sustenance brings blessing. (Good fortune is fragile, nothing is certain, everything contains also its opposite. Accept it and make life proceed in all circumstances. To stay alive is a blessing, all the rest is an extra.) Sabian Symbol: Glass blowers. (Melt what breaks and blow it again) ° Changing to 19.3 Sweet nearing. Probing brings no harvest. Already sad about it, without fault. (Sentiments are useless. Give your feelings only to essential and valuable things or people. Forget status, it is the inner worth that counts.) Sabian Symbol: A nonvested church choir (The tailor makes the man - but not his song) (Time is given for Greenwich Main Time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE. From owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Tue Jul 31 14:23:57 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f6VINvv20444 for hexagram-8-outgoing; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:23:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: apocalypse.org: majordom set sender to owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org using -f Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by apocalypse.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6VINuB20440 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:23:56 -0400 Received: from heybo002 ([195.121.114.22]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GHCOFU01.H35 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:23:54 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c119ed$fbc01e60$167279c3@heybo002> From: "LiSe" To: "hexagram-8 @apocalypse.org" Subject: HEX8: Hexagram July 31- August 1 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:23:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-hexagram-8@apocalypse.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hexagram-8@apocalypse.org July 31 03.20 GMT until August 1 04.14 GMT: hex.11, line 3 August 1 04.14 GMT until August 2 05.17 GMT : Hex.12.3 Holding a sheep offering in expiation for a wrong. (The largest obstruction is inside, from out one's conscience. So make it free by expiation, towards people and towards the gods (or your heart and mind). Cleanse yourself and shine again. ) Sabian Symbol: Early morning dew (A new day after the tears of the night) ° Changing to 33.3 Attached retreat. There is disease and danger. To keep male and female slaves is auspicious. (One can only retreat if one feels free and strong. One retreats to one's own value. So untie yourself from everything which pulls you down and make yourself the highest point of your life. With pride and grandeur.) Sabian Symbol: A man's head (I am the greatest) (Time is given for Greenwich Main Time. For USA subtract appr. 6 hours (11 AM will be 5 AM), for China add appr. 8 hours, for Australia add appr. 9 hours (the difference between your local clock-time and GMT). Given times are NOT exact, they may err some in either direction. I do not know if the most important hexagram for the day is the one of midnight, or the one of sunrise, or two hexagrams: before and after the given time) LiSe Yi Jing, Book of the Moon www.anton-heyboer.org postmaster@aheyboer.com ===== To unsubscribe from Hexagram-8, send a message to majordomo@apocalypse.org from the address subscribed, containing just the word UNSUBSCRIBE.