Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:27:24 -0400 From: Kafka Dreams To: void Subject: causation vs. correlation Something I've noticed - whenever people are being obsessive or flame-ridden about a particular thread, others respond with amazingly good signal. I'm not sure exactly why it happens - hence the causation vs. correlation concept. I do know that when I'm doing it, it's out of an instinct to drown out the stupidity and maybe raise the quality (although I might be giving myself too much credit). I'm also hoping that a side-effect will be to encourage others to give good stuff as well. In the life-cycle of mailing lists, I'm wondering if there has to be a point where the participants have too much baggage themselves and too much anger-soaked shared history with each other to be capable of communicating, or even wanting to communicate, in a civil fashion. For myself, I've been resisting the urge to tell a bunch of you freaks to shut the fuck up because it's not really my place to give orders. But at the same time, I share ownership (for whatever value you want to assign that word) of this community and get to express my opinions about it. And people keep self-censoring or referencing the fact that they expect a "STFU rant" from me. Maybe the flip-side of knowing people (or at least their electronic personalities) for a long time and/or in a thorough fashion has the potential to put a mailing list into the place in the cycle where things both meaningful and amusing flow through. Maybe that's happening and I just don't realize it, but I don't think so... But I think I'd rather be on that mailing list than this one. Just thinking out loud, Kelly J.